A debate over "MSN" - KENNY vs JASON

Topic: Does words carry meanings by itself or the meanings of words are interparate by the experience of the reader? (Sorry for this long post, take your time and read)

(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
what whats wrong with me?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
peng leh
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
i suddenly think of it n ask
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
cannot one meh?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
my cellmate tell me she play keyboard too long the finger suan
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
i thinking if i play praise song too long my hand start to suan
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
so i wan to ask abt drum aso
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
cannot meh?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
what's wrong??
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
dont think so much la
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
i jus askin oni mah y u tink so much...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
whats wrong with you
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
the words are strong.
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
isit? hw much kg than?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
its in literal meaning, therefore no quantitative value is needed
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
icic... so if u are sick? i cant ask u wats wrong wit u lah? rite?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
in context, when someone asks a question out of curiosity, saying what's wrong with you, can mean what's the problem with you which is rather prickling to the eyes
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
so how should i ask if the person really got some problem?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
its so simple, why do you have to take it as, there can be a problem?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
like if i ask you, have you eaten?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
so its a problem? its simple as asking if you have taken a meal
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
okok so tat means if i see tat u not feeling wel and ask "wats wrong wit u?" is it appoparate?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
err.. for my opinion.. i dont recommend the usage of 'what's wrong'..seriously la..
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
because..you think about it.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
what if i say.."how are you feeling now ? are you ok?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
its much nicer i guess.while what's wrong with you.is usually the person become unusual, not his usual self.. or even in an argument you may use to..wad's wrong with u ?
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
icic... so that mean in the end its how u take tat word not how i use it lah...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
of course to a high degree its how the person take the word.. however you wont be at fault at all if you use the designated words mah?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
like..if u tell someone, you're so handsome
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
then the person hate the word handsome.take it as u humiliate him
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
then is the problem of the person.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
aha
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
aiyer.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
u no sch tmr?
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
icic... but wat if i hav been using "wat's wrong with u?" to alot of person and they are ok wit but u take it as a not nice way does it mean tat u are like the person who take handsome as humiliatetion?
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
i got sch 2moro but i jus wana prove a point...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
okay. since you want to go into it.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if you are asking me, 'what's wrong with you' using your voice which i can hear.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
i can hear what tone you are using.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
a) concerned tone b) sarcastic tone
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
however. in text . its reading the words to interpret
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
ya i type are jus words... its u how u take it jus like wat u are saying nw... unless i said it to u verbally in a some tone than u can said im sarcastic or concern but nw its u read it, u take it what your experience tell u about "what's wrong with u" means. But to my experience in typing or read other's people type "what's wrong with u" is nothing wrong to me...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
my experience sad to say, partly is also beacuse of you
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
???
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
there has been times you used words that are not so comforting
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
which i even thought you became a changed person.
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
ok...
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
lol...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
i asked you for something.yet you were like.i forgot.but not nice at all
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
i msg you.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
you go
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
what?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
what u wan?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
dont tell me by experience that's being nice
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
ya i do tat to alot of person when type cos short no nid to type so mani words
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
but oni u said i so fierce
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
thats the way you built a culture with ur friends
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
they know u this way
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
i ask u ar?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if u ask pple something
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
pple reply
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
"har?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
and
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
"what?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
too big different feeling wor
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
wat if those fren most of them are church frens...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
church friends..yea.i meant it too
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
nono i mean i do tat to most church frens... frankly i dun hav much outside fren in my msn...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
okok.i can conclude easily la..if i always with my cellmate..the way i speak is.'wad the hell?" n they know mi better.they know i just mean "har?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
but if u msg mi, i go sae, "what the hell u wan?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
hahahahaa.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
dont tell mi u feel gd leh
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
its different leh
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
u maybe feel nothing.but u will like.how come i speak lidat
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
seriouly, i'm ok.... cos i'm like tat oso...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
for me its not ok la.its kinda crude to me already
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
hehe
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
anyway..u go n sleep la..
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
its nothing la...righ.t.
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
okok... actuali wat i wana prove is... "Words are empty, it's how the reader interprate it." It's jus like pointing middle finger, in japan it's common to do that cos to them middle finger is nothing. and the victory hand sign to some people its an insult... hand sign this kinda thing its like how people interprate it... reading words are the same... understan it base on yr experience...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
words are not empty. words can kill.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if words are empty.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
your english composition. you dont have to learn vocab. adjectives and phrases
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if words are empty. stories novels wont hold anything
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
a writer cannot be said as a powerful writer if he cant arouse feelings of the reader
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
for example a romance novel. if words and style of writing is poor.deliver any kind of meaning. how can a reader read till he is moved to tears? its the power of words used..the power of the language
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
standard english: 'is there anything i can help you with?"
in a unhappy tone u say,"what u want huh?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if u are a customer
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
u buy something.u say,"excuse me'
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
the person goes, 'what u wan?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
haha..the tone of what u wan is definitel not nice.sow hen u use in text writing.. it naturally should have the same meaning as the 'buay song' what u wan
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
"can i take your order?"
"what u wan?"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
heh.
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
okok imagine this... take harry potter for example... its famous pple reads it... but what if i pass a harry potter book in eng to a native in africa... will he be able to understan it? No rite? no matter how famous harry potter is... if he cant understan eng because none of his experience in his life is with eng... the words in the book are empty to him... unless its interprate to his language...
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
which is in his experience...
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
i hope its jus a debate for fun nt quarrel
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
that doesnt apply to him at all. i learn english, you learn english. we're in a english evironment..
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
nahnah..not a quarrel
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
see ar.. if i dont know tamil.i go read..i m learning BASIC tamil
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
of course i wont understand well.. some casual words i aso du nno
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
but now..u learn english in sch b4.i learn too. dont tell mi teacher teach u all the words n grammar n stuff different from me
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
den i sian diao lor
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
ya so to u the tamil is empty it carry no meaning even its scolding u...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
because its a language that doesnt apply to me, even you.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
english is a language thats should be so basic to you and me
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if the tamil word to scold mi, i dun undrestand.of cuz i dunno.if i know scolding mi.of cuz i affected.however.im sayin.if the tamil writes in a style that mean something else.but cus i dunno.i use my own way of interpreting.maybe frm english style.then different wad?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
like in japanese.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if u english sae, i am going to eat chicken rice
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
but japanese its
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
chickien rice eat i am going
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
style different. so if u give mi japanese stuff of cuz i dont understand that well cos i nv learn in sch
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
now we learnt english style before.so the way you write affects strongly
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
like i say about the english composition exams we take. if you write "Yes." or "Yes!" .it means different.
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
ya but due to our culture we speak english difference... altho we learn the same eng our experience is diff for example... wen i learn the words happy... i always pronounce wrongly... then always got scolded by my teacher... so due to that experience "happy" to me is not reali a happy word at all cos the word cos be to get scolded a lot of time but to u "happy" can be a difference experience...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
nono..not in this
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
okok.u use happy
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
so let say ar..u win a competition for ur exam piece ok?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if i ask how's ur mood.of cuz u will sae u are happy
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
even though u haf bad experience with happy before.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
u dun tell mi u there laughing so excited u use the word "sad"?
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
another example is england oso got english american oso got english...and singapore use english but y all are eng but sound diff use diff...
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
well of cus i'll nt use sad but i mite nt use happy... i will prefer glad due to my exp...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
why not lets say i won a prize.u ask mi how am i feeling about it? i give u first answr, "SHIOK LA..HAPPY SIA". 2nd answer "ya.happy lor." the 2nd ans is like sian sian .isnt it
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
u tink its sian sian because u take it wat yr experience tells you... but to me both mean the same...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
okok. probably your statement of experience stands here.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
however..in a composition ar..
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if u jsut write, "i am happy" it shows very very surface.just happy.the meaning is this.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
if u write, 'im really excited and extremely happy about it!"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
den if someone just tell u"yea..im happy lor"
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
then u think its really happy.i think thats nt being a bit sensitive..because all kinds of way to say u all treat as normal
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
den if i not really happy, but i faked a happy.how are u going to noe?
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
since u everything aso normal happy
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
there must be a difference in the way of typing. and i see that there are words that are meant not so nice you take it as nice liao
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
okok u look at it at a bigger picture... let said from long long time ago in eng, the word "happy" means extremly happy super happy... and the way of using it had pass down until nw... so in composition the writer and maker will take it tat "happy" is really very very happy. so reading "I'm happy" can mean very deeply happy due to the way its been use long long time ago... it became a experience
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
we are learning eng now from the experience of those who inverted it the words...
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
for example i invent this word "jason" and i said it means extermly happy... i pass it down people and ask people to teach people that "jason" means extremly happy... 2000 years down the road people wil us "jason" to express extrem happiness... because due to 2000years before i who invert the word "jason" said so, those who i teach experience tat... and that exp is pass down and people wil use
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
that forever due to that long long time experience...

, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
okok let my do a short conclusion too
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
what you say can be possible.however in our country english system.do you think its really practical and happening?from young we start to learn Cambridge British English.and its standard teaching all the way.the way you form sentences..put adjectives and vocabulary to add extra meaings to words. therefore.it is standard.however in the process with your community if you change it. it doesnt change
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
the universal meaning of it.so if im not in your community.i would expect the standard british english from you. if u use your native language which you have changed. it is not appropriate i think
Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says:
ya rite we are typing n speaking singlish now if u realise where are all the cambridge eng we learn...
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
nono.the words used are still there
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
singlish we add lah. short cuts.
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
but does not mean we change the structure to cause a change in meaing
(, "(- . -)(',')", )..... ҝeį .... ("-_-) ", )(,") [] says:
standard: can you please keep silent in the library here?"
singlish: eh..quiet leh..library eh
distortion: shut up lah

Don't be limited by our limits. Borders is what our eyes see. Beyond, is what God want you to believe. (kol-out.blogspot.com) says
but u see you are taking that those as standard,singlish or disortion is because of the experience you have, the education system tells you so... in the end its still yr experience with the education system that tell us what it means... it still comes down to experience with the words...